: Mnir Nureddin Selcuk

18-02-2006, 22:42
The other day a CD of historic recordings of Mnir Nureddin Selcuk fell into my hands, published by Kalan Mzik in 1998 in their "arsiv serisi" (CD 108). As a sample I want to share Buhurizade Mustafa Itri Efendi's composition "Glbin-i iys muhimeded saki-i gl-izar ku".

"Apart from the records he made for commercial record companies, Selcuk made records solely for academic and archival purposes, for the Instanbul Conservatory. These records that include the most distinguished examples of secular and religious Ottoman music have never been sold in the musical markets and they have been doomed to gather dust in obscure archives. The present CD brings together eight of those classical compositions for the first time. ... In the present recordings ... Selcuk is accompanied by Resat Erer (violin), Neyzen Tevfik (ney), Sedat Öztoprak (ud), Dtri Turan (tanbur), and Ahmet Irsoy (kudm)." (Blent Aksoy, from the CD booklet)

14-03-2006, 09:59
I was very familiar with this recording (again, turkish ministry of culture), and so far, it's one of my favourite vocal compositions of any kind. Really lovely piece.

Munir is obviously one of the great voices of turkey in the twentieth century. I wonder if anybody has gazels by him?


20-01-2007, 16:16
My friend Ambrosebierce for you ;) and all members :D Mnir Nurettin Selchuk singinig a Saba gazel.

20-01-2007, 23:24
Amazing indeed ...Thanks... shukran... !

21-01-2007, 10:03
Really amazing voice.

He also does some of those traditional ornaments I adore with Hafiz Kemal, but with more of a cascade style (sort of like Mohammad Rifaat's high notes).

I know I'm not making much sense, but thanks for the gazel.

22-01-2007, 00:12
Thanks a log Bekir and Paul.

Paul I tried to find the Selcuk Kalan CD. It's out of print with Kalan, and not even mentioned in Tulumba.

Unless you can advise me of somewhere to buy, I would recommend uploading the complete CD until it becomes available again commercially.

Let me know what you think.

22-01-2007, 08:59
If Axel Elbin doesn't have it...

Of course I can upload it here - though not before Wednesday.

27-01-2007, 16:19
I just returned from Istanbul, and was unable to find that CD in the market.

30-01-2007, 01:29
Allright - the CD is waiting on my desk. Hopefully I'll find some time to do it tomorrow.

01-02-2007, 12:18
Ambrose, please don't forget us.

You have so wet my apetite with the track listings, and I'm awaiting the complete stuff :)

01-02-2007, 21:57
Ambrose, please don't forget us.

You have so wet my apetite with the track listings, and I'm awaiting the complete stuff :)

Yep, here I am, ready with the files - probably ripping at the time of you writing the reminder:)

The first piece, track no.2 of the CD, is Hamamzade Ismail Dede's Ferahfeza Beste "Ey kas-i keman tr-i mjen cnima gecti", followed by "Serde hevy-i kkl, dilde hayal-i cnan", a Szink Nakis Beste of Zekai Dede, and finally Irak Yrpk Semai, again by Hamamzade Ismail Dede: "Hasretle tamam nl'e döndm sensiz".

Btw, about the first track of this album, uploaded some time back in this thread: I have uploaded another interpretation of the same composition, sung by Bekir Sidki Sezgin here:

01-02-2007, 22:02
Here's more: the Ferahnak Yrk Semai "Bir dilbere dil dst ki mahbb-i dilimdir" by Sakir Aga, then Kazasker Mustafa Izzet Efendi's Hicaz Ilahi "Urum'da Acem'de sik oldugum", and finally a Sehnaz Ilahi by Hamamzade Ismail Dede "Yörk degirmenler gibi dönerler".

01-02-2007, 22:46
The concluding piece is a long one: Dervis Mustafa Efendi's Bayati Mevlevi Ayini consisting of Bas Taksim, Pesrev, Selam 1-4, Son Pesrev, Son Yrk Semai and Son Taksim, with the Taksims played by the wonderful Neyzen Tevfik.

To maintain the sound quality of the music I have cut the piece in two parts.

03-02-2007, 10:12
Thanks a lot especially for the bayati mevlevi ayini.

03-02-2007, 17:16
Thanks so much for this very enjoyable historic document.

I say historic document because the singer (though I have other preferences), as well as two of the players are legends of turkish music.

The players I'm refering to are Neyzen Tevfik, and Sedat Oztoprak (who was an amazing composer, as well as an excellent udi).

I attached a rather flattering picture of Neyzen Tevfik, with hair that is incredibly in fashion among the youth these days.(If you start seeing him in nightmares, it isn't my fault).

I was going to upload in the notes section, the entire Beyati Ayin sung here, but I wasn't able to because of the maximum height restriction of 768 pixels (which isn't enough with gif files I made, which cannot be shrunk any further without conversion to jpg, which would give five times the file size with a big loss in quality, so...)

03-02-2007, 22:12

How can I ever thank you?

04-02-2007, 12:53

How can I ever thank you?

That's extremely easy - just go on as you do :)

05-02-2007, 21:02
i hope that you will like

Anlatayım Halimi Dildare Ben - Tamburi Ali Efendi, Rast şarkı
Ateş-i suzan-ı firkat yaktı cism- canımı - Hacı Faik Bey, Hicaz şarkı
Bir Muazzam Padişahsın ki Kulundur Cmle Şah - Zekai Dede, Şevkutarab İlahi

14-05-2007, 22:04
Some more by this wonderful artist. All the info I have is in the file name.

14-05-2007, 22:24
Even more:

15-05-2007, 18:03
Thanks a lot mate.

17-05-2007, 00:32
You're most welcome. I know I have neglected Zaman Al Wasl recently - I have never been a true specialist in Oriental music like so many of you and after some years of listening to near and mid eastern music I had to widen my scope again. At the same time I found the skafunkrastapunk.com forum which caters to that interest in an excellent way (despite the name it has a large "Jazz World Classical" section). Still, whenever I come about music suitable for this forum I immediately think of posting it here. With the growing archives hereabouts this becomes rarer and rarer though for a guy like me who has no collection of Arab radio recordings, 78 rpm records from Cairo or Beirut, etc. like the true connaisseurs among you folks. So I'm happy to at least contribute something in the Turkish section from time to time and in the meantime profit from your shares. :-)