مشاهدة جميع الاصدارات : Suzidil Saz Semaisi Resat Aysu

15-03-2006, 14:29
This version of the semai is played by the 2 masters in Turkey today, Yurdal Tokcan and Goksel Baktagir

the file is here:
media. nacs.uci.edu/rgarfias/mp3/turkey/turkey-all.html

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15-03-2006, 14:39
Thanks for this post, oudman.

15-03-2006, 14:45
What is the CD?

I'm hoping to put a video of these two fantastic players, playing Psendid pesrev by Sultan Selim III

15-03-2006, 15:55
This track wasnt from a cd, its from a friend of mines private collection

15-03-2006, 18:09
Thanks! Sounds very sweet.

A peice with the similar title appears on the following CD. Can someone who has the CD verify the name of the peice, they sound different:

Kalan Müzik(102), 1998
Arşiv Serisi
Ud: Yurdal Tokcan
Kanun: Göksel Baktagir
Tanbur: Necdet Yaşar
Klasik Kemençe: Derya Türkan

5 mins later: This track is posted on the following site as MP3. But it would interesting to compare the one on that Kalan CD. If any one has, please put it.

15-03-2006, 18:23
it is the necdat yashar CD

15-03-2006, 20:33
Ah, good to see that Robert Garfias has added Turkish music to his site. I used to go there for rare recordings of the wonderful Romanian singer Romica Puceanu (unfortunately she is outside the scope of this forum, but I can recommend her to every music lover - that is the tarab of the Balkans).

15-03-2006, 23:12
Can you at least hit me with the link to the romanian singer?

16-03-2006, 01:36
With great pleasure:
To me she is Gypsy music at its best.

16-03-2006, 16:21
thanks for that Paul, beautiful and full of energy. It is interesting to note that I am a believer that the Ibirian Gypsies have carried the Arabic tarab tradition, few of the maqams (Hijaz, Kurd, and Nahawand), and above all the imprvisation style till this present day. To the extent that Flamenco sounds more "eastern" than eastern European Gypsy music.

16-03-2006, 17:01
1st song Saraiman is 100% full Hicaz!

16-03-2006, 18:27
I don't see much of Iberian tradition in Romica's singing, but being Romanian she must have been in very close contact to her Turkish "colleagues". So it doesn't seem strange to hear from Najib that the music is maqam-based, at least some of it.

But of course I agree with you, Hakem, that the gypsies carry on Arabic musical traditions. Their role as disseminators of cultural traditions has not been really honoured, and I think not been researched much at all. These people have been on the move since centuries, between India and Spain and the Maghreb, and up to Northern europe as well. And at least all over Eastern Europe, they were the ones responsible for music and others forms of entertainment (that of course didn't stop others to chase them away the day after the party).