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    Burhan Guest

    إفتراضي Fadia el Hajj

    Fadia Hajj & Sarband & Osnabrucker Jugendchor


    Kyrie Eleyson

    Greek-Arabic Tradition

    Recorded in 1988,


    To Najib and Jacques....as usual your comments are appreciated!

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    تاريخ التسجيل
    May 2006
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    إفتراضي منتهى الخشوع

    شكراُ برهان
    القطعة جميلة جداُ و لو أني كنت أفضلها بدون نقرات الدف
    أتوقع أن يكون هناك عنوان أخر للقطعة غير كيري إيليسون و التي تعني (يا رب ارحم) و العنوان عادة يؤخذ من نص الترتيلة

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    Burhan Guest

    إفتراضي Supplication de Saint Ephrem

    here is another sample

    soloist: Fadia el Hajj
    Chorus: Mesopotamia
    Direction: P. Elie Kiserwani

    Supplication de Saint Ephrem (Careme)

    Recorded live in Mardrid, 2000

    Zuheir, please note the difference in sound when the work is directed by a local (P. Kiserwani)...unlike the previous Kyrie which was directed by a Bulgarian-German (Dr Validimir Ivanoff), though both hymns as very much 'eastern'!
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    آخر تعديل بواسطة Burhan ، 15-11-2006 الساعة 12:37

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    تاريخ التسجيل
    May 2006
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    إفتراضي هذه شرقية

    منذ أول نوتة موسيقية في المقدمة تحس بشرقية العمل حتى أن المقدمة تذكرك بالأغاني الشعبية الشامية (الحزينة منها) ربما بسبب وجود الناي و القانون، للتوزيع الآلي دور كبير في نوعية تلقيك للعمل
    الترنيمة سريانية اللحن مئة بالمئة و صوت فاديا عذب لأبعد الحدود

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    تاريخ التسجيل
    Jul 2005
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    إفتراضي Hi

    Sorry this is one hell of a mess!

    I'm commenting on the Kyrie file here:


    1stly there is nothing Greek about except for the words!

    2ndly the fusion of something that is purely oriental with a gregorian type of chanting + instrumental

    For me this is battikh + banadourah = Teffah absolute rubbish.

    And I really don't understand why people produce schizophrenic CDs like this. I see schizophrenic by comparing with the 2nd track uploaded here which is very acceptable to me!

    I will delete the Kyrie file later. Sorry!

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    Jacques Guest

    إفتراضي

    Thanks for the files Burhan.

    Najib, I think there is also a Slavonic twist in it as well
    I'm a supporter of traditional types of chanting, I like it when it's pure Byzantine, pure Arabic, or pure Syriac.
    Rev. Miled Tarabay has done some beautiful works in traditional Syriac music & lyrics (like Track 8 Burhan uploaded in an earlier post), and beautiful works in a Lebanese style of music & lyrics (like Track 10 in that post).

    As for the Syriac hymn, it's great - I like everything Syriac

    For example, see how the file I posted is purely Syriac
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    آخر تعديل بواسطة Jacques ، 17-11-2006 الساعة 15:13

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    Burhan Guest

    إفتراضي

    Dear Friends

    thanks for your comments..i agree that the synthesis of more than one genre or style is a very difficult endevour and a risky one as well...and many times it does not work out properly ...also i dont understand why Ivanoff decided to use rhythms in the Kyrie.....this work is a hyrbid.....may be, its an attempt to convey an esoteric and exotic mood...i am not sure....this is why i wanted to raise a discussion about orchestration...its pitfalls and successes....


    QUOTE=Jacques]Thanks for the files Burhan.

    Najib, I think there is also a Slavonic twist in it as well
    I'm a supporter of traditional types of chanting, I like it when it's pure Byzantine, pure Arabic, or pure Syriac.
    Rev. Miled Tarabay has done some beautiful works in traditional Syriac music & lyrics (like Track 8 Burhan uploaded in an earlier post), and beautiful works in a Lebanese style of music & lyrics (like Track 10 in that post).

    As for the Syriac hymn, it's great - I like everything Syriac

    For example, see how the file I posted is purely Syriac [/QUOTE]

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