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الموضوع: The dancing boys music

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    إفتراضي The dancing boys music

    Music from the Ottoman Sultan's era.

    Notice that Sayyed Darwish "borrowed" this music in its entirety to make the song Mahsoubkoum Das.
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    إفتراضي

    إقتباس المشاركة الأصلية بواسطة Najib مشاهدة مشاركة
    Music from the Ottoman Sultan's era.

    Notice that Sayyed Darwish "borrowed" this music in its entirety to make the song Mahsoubkoum Das.
    This is indeed the same music. No doubt about it. But are you sure of the date of this composisition? Is it from the nineteenth?
    أبو علاء

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    إفتراضي Hi

    Hi Mohsen,


    No doubt about it.

    The CD is called music of the dancing boys part of a set of Ottoman Sultanic music by an Ottoman Music group called Lazelar.


    روحي الفداء لكلّ كفءٍ عارفٍ............أهوي على قدميه غير مبال
    أتريد معرفة الجحيم بكنهها؟............إن الجحيم لصحبة الجهّال
    Mustapha Said - Rubaiyyat

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    إفتراضي

    i remember this one from zeryab days the name of sayed darwish song is Lahn Al-Arwaam (which means the greeks ,especially those living in and around current turkey so it's logical . i think S Darwish is remarkable in making use of all the music of the people around him in his musical theatre ..i see this is very valid and suitable for this particular purpose .

    i see you're listening to Mustafa Said's , ovide will be happy ...
    آخر تعديل بواسطة Hattouma ، 09-05-2009 الساعة 01:57

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    إفتراضي

    Oh my God! Even more digging, Najib, eh? You are not going to leave this man alone, are you?

    Whatever happens, I stick to my hero, the one and only Zako, bless his soul!

    You don't mind do you?

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    إفتراضي Hey

    Zako is our hero not just yours no doubt about it!

    I'll re-iterate in English some of what Mohsen and I said in Arabic in the Nahdah section.

    We have nothing against Sayyed Darwish. I personally love a lot of his compositions.

    No doubt he was great in the "Musical" theatre of Egypt, no doubt he was the leader of nationalistic and popular songs that touched the lives of millions of Arabs and Egyptian.

    Many of the muashshahs that he made might not be his. Not because he was a charlatant but because a lot has been attributed to Sayyed Darwish and the poor man had nothing to do with that.

    The guy has been overloaded! Before the revolution he was like Voldermort no one would dare mention his name. After the revolution he was the magic pill of Arabic music. Everything was attributed to him. All the musicians that came after him became descendant of him. A bit like all Parisians after World War II ended. Almost everyone declared himself as ex-member of the resistance.

    This forum however specialises in the Classical Oriental Music as defined by the Nahdah era. The free style. The ear-to-mouth tradition. This was not a domain where Sayyed Darwish excelled at all.

    Like Mohsen said his handful of adwar does not tally with the massive number of tarabic muashshahs that are attributed to him.

    We have nothing against Britney Spears here let alone Sayyed Darwish.

    All we are trying to do is to promote a flavour that persisted (not necessarily commercially) and that we always dig to polish it, dust it off, promote it, and make it heard.

    We are saying give this genre a place and a chance.

    Otherwise there is no point in having this forum whatsoever!

    Of course this was not an answer to Hilal. Hilal knows our cause very well.

    But I thought a re-iteration might prove useful sometimes!


    روحي الفداء لكلّ كفءٍ عارفٍ............أهوي على قدميه غير مبال
    أتريد معرفة الجحيم بكنهها؟............إن الجحيم لصحبة الجهّال
    Mustapha Said - Rubaiyyat

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    إفتراضي

    إقتباس المشاركة الأصلية بواسطة Hattouma مشاهدة مشاركة
    the name of sayed darwish song is Lahn Al-Arwaam (which means the greeks ,especially those living in and around current turkey so it's logical . i think S Darwish is remarkable in making use of all the music of the people around him in his musical theatre ..i see this is very valid and suitable for this particular purpose .
    I think Hatim's comment makes much sense here. He (Darwish) would have come through this dance and thought it would be representative of 'arwam.
    أبو علاء

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