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الموضوع: Radif: The integral repertory of Persian art music by Dariush Tala'i

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    إقتباس المشاركة الأصلية بواسطة mary farris مشاهدة مشاركة
    yes, thanks so much for doing all this!
    My pleasure. Welcome to the forum!
    أبو علاء

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    Paolo Castelluccio Guest

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    This is gold, Abu Alaa.
    I'm endlessly grateful for this work. Finally a Radif is accessible for me, too.

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    إقتباس المشاركة الأصلية بواسطة Paolo Castelluccio مشاهدة مشاركة
    This is gold, Abu Alaa.
    I'm endlessly grateful for this work. Finally a Radif is accessible for me, too.
    My pleasure! Usually, we do not encourage the posting of any material that can be accessed in the commerce or elsewhere in the web, mainly for copyright considerations, but I was told by knowledgeable persons that this collection was out of print and was exhorted to post it.
    آخر تعديل بواسطة أبو علاء ، 11-04-2011 الساعة 21:35
    أبو علاء

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    carl Guest

    إفتراضي Many thanks

    Many thanks for taking the trouble.

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    Daniel Younessi Guest

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    Firstly, thank you so much for talking the trouble to post all of this up. Secondly, I had a question: avaz-e bayat-e tork, as far as I've heard, is identical to the major scale apart from a half-flat (koron) on the B. In this version of the radif, bayat-e tork is played with a traditional shur tonality. Can anyone explain this?

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    Franck Leriche Guest

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    Bayat-e tork is really different from the major scale, it's based on the third degree of shur tetracord.

    The melodic movements turn within shur tetracord.
    As it's moving toward the fifth it shares some gushé with Mahur, but each time the forud is back to B-Tork.
    And when correctly played it has an overall completly different perfum.

    so if you listen carefully to a vocal version the tonic of B-tork always have some "vibrato" , same as the third degree of shur.
    Sometimes it's less obvious with string intstruments specially if the tonic is played on an open string.(wich destroy a little of the B-tork feeling)

    Bayat-e tork is very much used for azan in Iran.

    Here's a real B-tork "hâl", Ostad M.R. Shajarian on Mevlana's turbe.
    ******
    He starts singing at 1:45


    Please, no links to files uploaded on externeal websites. If you want to illustrate your argument, you can download the file in question from that website, cut the relevant part and post it here.
    آخر تعديل بواسطة أبو علاء ، 05-07-2011 الساعة 19:36

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